Thanks for visiting QuadifyRC.com. Be sure to check out our other reviews, tip and tricks and coupons and discounts Introduction In the world of brushless ducted quadcopters (whoops) I have been lucky enough to review most of the big hype products - Happymodel Snapper7 and upgrades, Happymodel Mobula 7, Full Speed TinyLeader and now the Eachine Trashcan. Clearly it is a silly but memorable name and it will surely be easy to search for online.
It is great to see a case included here and like the mobula7, enough battery power to get flying in earnest. The included XT30 is a small gesture but a nice touch nonetheless. Spec comparison For this review I will make comparisons to the Happymodel Mobula7 given it is recognised as something of a performance standard and the popularity and obvious similarities. You can find the full review for the Mobula7 here. When the Eachine Trashcan was first announced the Mobula7 could not be found in stock for love or money, and the specs read like an upgrade of every single component of the Mobula7 - see below for my comparison. Other than winning the mine is bigger than yours prize, there were seemingly some key areas that were addressed that were a known point of discussion for the Mobula 7:
So from a specs perspective it looks to be superior to the Mobula7 in every way however it does pay for this somewhat in weight - up from 26g in the Mobula 7 to 34g but still much less than the 45g of the Tinyleader. Note, for the uninitiated these are all 2s ducted micro quadcopters with 40mm propellers. Setup (Betaflight) So it does look like betaflight has been customised with a factory tune however it does seem to be half baked? See my comments in the Betaflight screenshots below. Interesting to note that mine shipped with Betaflight 4.0 which although well regarded at the time of writing, is still only a nightly build.
Battery options The Eachine Trashcan is capable of both 1s and 2s power supply. The stock batteries are 1s but are designed to be used in series. If you are looking at new batteries I'd recommend converting to proper 2s 300-350mah packs and changing the connector to the included XT30. Unlike the Mobula 7 the Eachine trashcan will fit these pack natively. Packs I can confirm that physically fit the stock frame are: Throttle limit (modified from my Mobula 7 review) If you are looking at flying indoors I'd recommend against using larger 1s batteries (450-600mah) but instead use a throttle limit in betaflight. The advantages here are lower current draw and less battery sag. Putting the limit in betaflight rather than on your radio gives you better control and allows you to put throttle limits on an auxilliary switch. Full details on how to limit throttle in betaflight 3.4.0 and up here. Flight Performance Straight off the bat, this quadcopter is very quick. In fact when I first took off on my initial flight and blipped the throttle to overcome the ground effect, I catapulted straight into the overhead louvres! The power is apparent in actual flight too particularly in the low to mid range where the power feels difficult to manage at times (for me anyway). I found I could manage better when limiting throttle to 80% as above through betaflight throttle scaling. All this thrust means that big power loops and pulling out of large dives very late is even more impressive than the mobula7 and is significantly better than the TinyLeader on 2s. The speed is such that it is hard to believe this is actually a ducted whoop when flying on the goggles - it looks very alien seeing this quad fly line of sight because it is speed and the tiny size. In terms of handling I feel it is a little more awkward than the mobula 7. I am not convinced this is because of the extra weight alone - I think the more supports on the frame may have altered the aerodynamics. It is not bad by any stretch, just takes a little getting used to unlike the Mobula 7 (or emax tinyhawk) which feel a little more natural. I have not yet tuned to any real degree but this may well help. While still on handling I do get more yaw twitches than the Mobula7 (but not as many as TinyLeader) particularly on split-s and hairpin manouvres rather than pulling out of dives. Since these moves are typically asssociated with propwash it may be that I just need to add additional d-term on roll and pitch axes. Efficiency - power consumption The Eachine trashcan comes with 300mah batteries run in series for 2s and outdoors this will get you 2.5 - 3.5 minutes flight depending on how hard you fly and what voltage you come down at. This is the same sort of flight time on the Mobula7 which achieves it with 250mah batteries and smaller 0802 motors. I noticed early on that I was not using the top 20-30% of throttle because although the current draw increases, the thrust does not increase to the same degree. This tells me that on this setup the motor becomes inefficient in this range - specifically that the kV is a little too hight for 2s alone. My guess is this choice was a compromise to still allow reasonable 1s flight. My recommendation for this is to scale maximum throttle to 70 or 80% on 2s which should offer better efficiency, better throttle resolution and longer flight for very little practical loss in trust. FPV Performance Although I personally do not need it, it is nice to have 200mW available close to hand via betaflight OSD switching. It will give you greater confidence at range for video signal which is an important consideration given the speed at which this tiny quadcopter can cover ground. Its worth nothing that the ability to go to 200mW puts this ahead of all other brushless whoops other than betaFPV 65x and 75x (which have questionable VTXs) and the Fullspeed TinyLeader which goes up to a staggering 600mW. In terms of camera, the Caddx EOS delivers a superior picture in daylight compared to the AIO cameras of all other brushless whoops exept the Tinyleader which uses a full size micro camera. This was clearly a conscious choice as it contributes somewhat to the weight increase over the Mobula7. That said there are 2 things I do not like about this camera:
Conclusions and summary The Eachine Trashcan is a 2s brushless micro ducted whoop-style quadcopter avaialble exclusively from Bangood. It builds upon the huglely successful Happymodel Mobula7 and it improves it in practically every aspect from a specs standpoint, most importantly for me from a frame strength perspective which I felt was the only real let down of the Mobula7 in my review. In flight it is a powerhouse but suffers a little from awkward flight characterstics which I suspect can be remedied with tuning. I believe this will be a very popular model and so PID tunes from users with know how will become more readily available. If you are looking for a 2s brushless whoop and do not need HD recording (like the TinyLeader HD) the trashcan is probably the one to get - if you can get it. It is available exlusively through Banggood and at time of writing it is in pre-order status. When I find the Eachine Trashcan on special from time to time I'll always capture on my coupons and discounts page
If you found this review useful please feel free to share and or like it on facebook below: Upgrade parts (New section) Given the success of the Eachine Trashcan and Mobula7, there have been many new upgrade parts released in addition to the spares further down
Spare parts These can be found below and are interchangeable with other micro brushless quads, particularly the Happymodel Mobula7: I will add more parts as they become available here but in the meantime check out all of the parts available on my Mobula 7 review
20 Comments
Alex
8/1/2019 02:24:18 am
Great review, you wouldnt happen to know if the vtx supports connecting a mic by any chance?
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QuadifyRC
8/1/2019 09:04:10 am
Hi Alex
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Alex
8/1/2019 01:15:08 pm
Thanks so much! Really want to jave audio so I can manage the throttle a bit better haha
rito Pena
14/9/2021 12:52:22 am
my eachin trashcan i cannot bind to my radiomaster tx16s i use a
rito Pena
14/9/2021 01:06:28 am
cannot bind my eachin trashcan to my radiomaster tx16s i use FRYSKY D8 AND D16 PROTOCOL BUT CANNOT BIND I TRY HOW MANY TIMES PLEASE HELP ME TNX RITO PENA
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Wayno
28/3/2019 08:45:52 am
Did you change to the XT30 connector, and if so, is the 5V regulator still working? Mine blue when I plugged in the 4th 2s pack. Seen me to be a common issue with this AIO.
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Kyle Danilson
30/3/2019 04:09:12 am
Mine blew too the same way. And I have other as soon as I disarm it flies to the ceiling. And I have fail safe hooked up to no pulses
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Jeroen
18/6/2019 07:51:54 am
Mine also blue up on 2s. I soldered a seperate 5v regulator over. Saw that on Albert Kim his YouTube channel and the links are in the description. Works
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Quadify RC
19/6/2019 08:54:55 pm
I never did change the connector on this one. I did go to JST on my Mobula and have not had an issue with it. I'd recommend if you do go to 2s use the XT30 with capacitor here: http://bit.ly/2Ki34Gq
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Jaydawgx7
10/7/2019 07:25:32 am
Mine blew as well the second I plugged in my 2s. I also put a separate 5v regulator on there and it works great. If you haven't blown it and are considering switching to xt-30, put a 220uF capacitor between the leads of the battery connector and it won't blow (did this with my second trashcan and it works great).
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Tony Nguyen
9/7/2019 03:09:40 pm
I use x-lite pro and have updated the ACCST D16 mode but still can't bind to Trashcan rx Frsky. Can you guide me?
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Quadify RC
9/7/2019 08:02:24 pm
Binding in D16 requires the recevier to be set to frsky_x mode as I did in the 4th screen shot. If you've tried that my suggestion would be that the bugs might still need to be worked out of the x-lite pro?
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Tony Nguyen
9/7/2019 08:38:30 pm
I have set it to frSky_X in Betaflight and tried bind but still not.
saul
18/7/2019 05:22:10 am
Hi, I have an idle problem with my trashcan, when its armed it seems all good for a few second but then it gets a sudden jump or erratic rpm change, with the stock props I can almost handle it but using the gemfan 3 blade props its so significant it hit the roof in about 2 seconds. Iv tried everything except changing the filter settings.
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Quadify RC
22/7/2019 03:03:01 pm
That sounds peculiar. Assuming the props aren't bent or damaged in any way? Try the filter/PID settings here, they may help https://www.quadifyrc.com/tips-and-tricks/mobula7-upgrade-betaflight-4-pids-and-filters
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Luís Fernandes
3/9/2019 12:35:29 pm
Hello, I have a 9xr pro with module xjt, I was able to connect but in betaflight appears as if all signals were at maximum. how can I solve?
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Quadify RC
3/9/2019 10:26:46 pm
Sorry I'm not familiar with the 9xr pro nor the xjt module
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Z408
10/4/2020 09:32:45 am
Can not get my voltage or amps used to display the correct values. I have it configured similar to yours, however my numbers are off. It might be off by half a volt and 100 mah. Any ideas? thanks.
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Quadify RC
10/4/2020 10:12:45 am
Hi There
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Z408
18/4/2020 03:27:28 pm
Thanks for your help. The amps is perfect but the voltage still does not work. Some people are saying I need to switch to solid pin ph2.0's. Guess I will do that next. Voltage is perfect on take off but 10 seconds in, it drops to 3.4v. I posted a link to your how-to's on another forum. Leave a Reply. |
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