Update: Due to the popularity of this review I have just completed an ultimate upgrade guide for the Tyro79 here. This covers all parts and betaflight upgrades. What's in the kit It's a surprisingly complete kit, including all the essential plus many extra that a builder may want - zip ties, spanners, silicon pads, multiple straps etc - it's all here and listed below. The parts you would expect are in black, the parts you probably would not are in red
If this is your first quad you will need some extra gear to get flying:
The build process. I wont repeat the build process here, AndyRC did a fantastic job in his videos but I will provide some recommendations and tips based on challenges I found during the build.
Betaflight Setup Since there was no real customisation worth keeping I chose to upgrade to the latest betaflight and start settings from scratch. Receiver is in UART 1 and smart audio on UART 2. For PIDS I chose stock with I-term increased 50% on roll, pitch yaw since I-term relax was on. Dynamic filters on as per default. Increase gyro/pid loop to 8k/8k and that's about it. Initial thoughts on the build pre-flight After the setup and build I thought that the motors were just awful. They had horrible wires with acrylic insulation and laminations on the wire itself making it a bit of a pig to solder, certainly compared to regular silicon insulated motor wires. Furthermore the bearings sound horrid when idling. How did this translate to flight? It didn't, it actually flew a lot better than I was expecting. When I first saw the specifications I thought the motors were ridiculous - much too big of a stator and a ridiculously low kV even for 4s. Well the kV combined with a larger 1606 stator is actually fine offering resonable power on 3s and 4s with suprisingly good efficiency... more on that below. It does pay for it a bit in weight but not as much as I though it would. 3s performance Just to get the ESC warmed up I started with 3s batteries, particularly the awful betafpv 850mah packs which just have a riduculously low c value. For a reasonably large capacity these were just unflyable in my Fullspeed leader 2.5 as reviewed here. I was then pleasantly surprised to find that not only did I get decent battery life with these in the tyro79 (4-4.5 minutes with fairly heavy throttle), I also had more power than I was expecting and certainly enough for a beginner to get to grips - enough to recover from big dives, power loops etc. If you already have 3s packs between about 450mah and 850mah I would recommend using them but if you are buying new please just go for 4s even if you are a beginner: read on... 4s performance After I was comfortable that the build was sound on 3s I went for 4s (I used the CNHL ministar 4s 650mah which I can recommend). Everything felt sharper and faster and the speed was much improved. The best improvement however was the response: the ability of the quad to react more rapidly to stick inputs. I would recommend that even for beginners you go straight for 4s with this quad. There are easy ways to limit throttle like I wrote about here in order to hone your skills, lessen the chance of accident damage and make your flights last longer. I just wanted to point out again that between the noisy bearings, odd stator size and kv choice that these motors would be a disaster but combined with the rest of the package here are surprisingly good. I still have concerns about longevity and crash resilience but at time of writing I am 60-odd packs in and have yet to encounter and issue. beyond broken props and 1 x broken battery strap - very much consumable items anyway. FPV performance Now this is where I have confusing results. On the first 30 or so flights the camera was adequate - I could see colours fine but more importantly the transitions from light to dark were quite manageable. This can be seen in the DVR below. I cannot remember if there was a crash or some event but since then the light handling has been awful - I cannot see in shadows at all, I can only fly on very sunny days with no clouds. Cloudy days blow out the image and make it practically unflyable. This is interesting to me because these help explains the contrasting reviews I have watched. AndyRC had results similar to my first 30 packs - adequate light handling and colour reproduction whereas UAVfutures has the same as my next 30 - practically unflyable. I would suggest the buy should be aware of this likely issue and think if spending another $15-20 on a good camera like the Foxeer Razer or Foxeer Arrow Micro Pro would steer you towards another quadcopter. Maybe, maybe not... with a good camera it is not a bad little quad - not perfect but not as bad as the price might suggest. Conclusions and recommendations There's no doubt that at retail price the tyro79 is MUCH less than anything similar although it does come with some clear caveats
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18 Comments
iksobarg
11/3/2019 09:46:41 am
I've only been dabbling in FPV as an enthusiast for two years and since a while now I've been wondering how actual and correct the specs are on any of this and any kit is. If I had the time I'd do just this and rate the accuracy of each mainstream piece of kit because, well, it'd be good to know how accurate "their" numbers are. Then again, maybe it's all good...
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QuadifyRC
11/3/2019 11:14:56 am
Hi There.
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John baird
14/6/2019 08:43:59 pm
Hello. I noticed that you built this quad props out. Is it an improvement over props in? Also since I wired mine for props in would it matter if the nuts are reversed on the motors?
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John Graboski
15/6/2019 12:27:08 am
Hi John, Props out helps keep the grass from getting blown onto the camera. That's it. If the props are on tight enough (careful not to overtighten!) you shouldn't have any problems with them coming loose. Just try and check them from time to time. Happy Landings!!
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John baird
16/6/2019 05:05:28 am
Hello. I'm currently having issues with the motors on my Tyro. You can wiggle the bells slightly side to side. I thought maybe the bearings were dead. So I replaced the bearings with new ones and this side to side sloppiness didn't go away. After further investigation I realized the larger top bearing is loose in its race. Can I use some kind of adhesive to set it in position? I think they are really great Motors. The quad flies exceptionally well for its money. If I can't fix this bearing issue can you recommend a motor to replace them. I don't know enough about brushless motors to figure out what would be an acceptable replacement. If you search for1607 motor you only find links for this exact motor.
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Quadify RC
14/8/2019 09:47:36 pm
Sorry John, have only just seen this post now. I think this 1607 is too big and heavy. I'd recommend these motors which are smaller, lighter, more powerful and much more durable: http://bit.ly/2TuIEwB
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David Hernandez
20/6/2019 09:29:50 am
What kind of motors would you recommend to give this some more pep in it's step?
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Quadify RC
14/8/2019 09:45:53 pm
Sorry, late reply. I'd go with something smaller (lighter) and better built. RCinpower is making some of the best motors, these ones are a thing of beauty: http://bit.ly/2TuIEwB
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Stefan
11/8/2019 01:04:47 am
What is the bearing format needed for the Tyro79 motors. Mine are going towards end of life but I can still fly. Would like to order replacements before motors stop working.
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11/8/2019 11:02:39 am
The bearings in the stock tyro79 motors are 3x6x2.5mm on bottom and 3x7x3mm on top.
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Quadify RC
14/8/2019 09:46:19 pm
Thanks John
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Alessandro
13/12/2019 11:49:47 pm
Hello Quadify RC, I've the Tyro79 in proput as yours and with BF 4.0.6. I run it inly in 4S 650mah tattu, any advise for better setup, pids and filters? I've set it as in your article and it flies well for now but I'm a bit courius about BF 4.1 on it. Any final setup like the one for Mobula 7 will be very appreciated and shared i think, not many others have write about tyro79 after the first build and setup. Thank you for your articles and work in general
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Quadify RC
14/12/2019 07:03:35 am
Hi Alessandro
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Alessandro
14/12/2019 09:57:17 pm
That's great! I'll look for the esc license, thank you
Peter
1/3/2020 05:23:45 am
FYI: the "faulty receiver connector" is basically just a missing bridge between the middle pin (where you connected your RX and) and the corresponding neighbouring pin (PPM or SBUS, depending on what your're using).
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gabe r
2/7/2020 11:10:58 pm
i broke the tab for sbus or ppm. can i solder underneath to the sbus tab and get away with out soldering the bridge?
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Quadify RC
9/7/2020 08:55:50 am
Hi Gabe
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Neil
15/8/2020 06:40:03 am
Not sure if you got your new one or not, but the FC on my 05/2020 purchase has a plug over the top of the buzzer connectors. Are you aware of any other way to connect up a buzzer?
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