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144001 Brushless Upgrade: The cheapest setup worth having

12/4/2021

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By now I've made a number of brushless upgrades to the WL Toys 144001 which I've documented, each with a different objective in mind. All of these offer an improvement over stock which, depending on option offer an improvement of speed, acceleration, weight, balance and efficiency over stock. The objective of this brushless upgrade is simple - the cheapest brushless setup worth having for bashing
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Here are all of the brushless upgrade guides I've written to date. These have been based on a particular type of performance objective as summarised below:
  • 144001 Ultimate Brushless Upgrade: The first and probably most well rounded upgrade I've done based on the 2838 4500kv motor and 35A ESC. Although the ESC can be hit and miss on 3s and it does take a bit of work to slot the motor and drill the pinion, I still feel this is the best balanced setup of the lot.
  • 144001 No cut brushless Upgrade: As above but with the magical 15t pinion which requires no slotting of the motor plate. A little slower and conservative on 2s but this opens up 3s as an option more safely.
  • 144001 Stealth Speed Run Upgrade: My first attempt at a speed run build using a larger 3650 motor and 80A ESC on 2 and 3s. I believe 3650 motors are only really suitable for straight line speed as the weight of this motor makes it a bit of a liability in corners and on jumps.
  • 124018 Drop in Brushless Upgrade: My latest guide at time of writing takes advantage of the 2445 bolt pattern to ensure no cuttings is required to motor mount nor pinion making this the very easiest brushless install you can do. The very fast 5400kv motor means this will do up to 110km/h on 3s but the extra power means you need the more expensive 16BL30 esc with attention to detail heat management
Since I've gone to some lengths in my other guides to cover the install process I will leave that out an instead ask you to follow the 124018 / 124019 / 144001 drop in brushless upgrade guide here. So lets get on the the parts!
Parts used for the build
Motor. I've gone with another drop in option based on the 15t pinion here to keep things simple. In order to keep current draw down (which allows me to use a cheaper ESC), I've opted for the smaller 2440 4600kv motor which allows you lots of room with minimal weight - I'm talking 70g which is 1/3 of the weight of the stock motor's 210g. Don't worry about speed, I've clocked this at 60km/h on 2s which is no slouch. The 3rd/4th option below is a 2445 3600kv which will have a little lower top speed but much better acceleration and efficiency and more recommended where torque is required (e.g. offroad). All of these can be had for around $10-15 each.
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Racerstar 2440 4600kv This is the motor I did most testing on with this setup. More on the performance below. I used this motor predominately in this guide
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Racerstar 2445 3600kv Larger but lower kv options should be good where more torque, less speed is required
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Surpass Hobby 2445 3600kv Same as the racerstar option to the left (Racerstar is a Banggood rebrand of Surpass in this category)
ESC. This is the trickiest area to save money since many of us have seen failures when cheap ESCs have been overloaded. In choosing small and/or low kv motor options with short gearing then we can limit current draw (on 2s) and choose a cheaper ESC as a result. All of the options below have been tested by me with additional feedback below on each. Cost for these is $20-25 depending on where you shop
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Surpass Hobby KK 35a. The newer KK series 35a ESC here from Surpass is has held up with a lot of abuse from me using the 2440 4600kv motor as above. I can recommend this on 2s but as yet untested on 3s. I used this ESC predominantly in this guide
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Newgo v-good 30a ESC. AFTER FURTHER TESTING I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS ESC - ISSUES WITH COGGING AND DELAY Also available rebranded as x-team
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Racerstar 35a ESC. This is the same one used on my ultimate brushless upgrade guide. This is a lower quality ESC that the others here but can handle 2s ok on these smaller motors. I definetly recommend the Surpass hobby over this on
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Hobbywing WP16BL30 ESC. More expensive than the others at $25-35 but the smoothest and most reliable of the lot and can run any of the motors above easily on 3s. Overkill for the motors above but here as an option.
Radio and Servo. I've kept the options very simply below with the focus on cheapest worth having. You'll need to choose one servo and one set of radio gear (which includes transmitter and receiver).
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SURPASS Hobby S0017M 17g Metal Gear Digital Servo. My favourite servo regardless of price at around $10
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Surpass Hobby 17g Plastic Digital Servo. Same as the one to the left but with plastic gear which should still hold up fine for only $8. I used this ESC predominantly in this guide
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​DumboRC X6 Transmitter with Gyro Receiver. Best value budget radio you can get with excellent range and a gyro. $30-$35
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Flysky FS-GT2E Transmitter and Receiver. Cheapest flysky transmitter/receiver with the excellent AFDHS2a protocol. No gyro. $30-$35. I used this radio set predominantly in this guide
Other crucial items. You'll need these extras as well. I've included the motor plate but you can omit if you are confident you can remove the old motor and pinion.
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15t 0.7m pinion gear. This is the ONLY option for the pinion gear and the reason this build is possible which makes it such a crucial component. Also available here and here. These are typically $2-3
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M2.5 countersunk screws - choose 8mm. These will hold your new motor to the motor plate and are perfect replacement for the screws that hold your motor mount to the chassis. Typically $3-4 for a set of 50
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Motor mount. My recommendation is to always buy a spare motor mount but if you feel you can extract yours from the motor and pinion, that will save $6 or so
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T-Plug Connector. Depending on which ESC you chose above you may need to change for these Deans T-plug connectors. Cheapest option here at 1$ but I personally like these ones for $6 with removable sheaths.
Total cost for my build
Details below for the build as tested and shown here.
Item
Cost at time of purchase (rounded)
Motor: Racerstar 2440 4600kv
$10
ESC Surpass KK 35a
$25
Radio Flysky GT2E
$31
Servo Surpass 17g plastic gear
$8
M2.5 screws (already had from another project)
$0
Motor mount (stock one re-used)
$0
15t 0.7m pinion gear
$2
Deans connector
$1
TOTAL
$77​
As you can see my parts came to a total of around $77. If you wait for sales and discount codes you may be able to get this for as little as $70 or try your luck on aliexpress and it may be as little as $60. For example right now on Alixpress they have the Surpass KK 35a ESC with t-plug connector and 2440 4600kv motor for $26 which would bring the total down by $10. By all means shop around but as you know I like Banggood for the most reliable experience for worldwide shipping for everything except the pinion which they do not stock. Just to play devil's advocate check out my article comparing the cost of a custom brushless 144001 setup vs the superior LC racing EMB series which is this car is based on. If you shop carefully you should be able to end up with a brushless 144001 at around the $150 mark.
Install
As mentioned above I won't delve into the install as a guide but will show you some pictures I took along the way. See my drop in brushless guide which follows the same steps for install if needed. Click to embiggen as always.
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Motor, mount, top plate and ESC all stripped out for the new gear to go in
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New motor, pinion, receiver and servo in. Enough room in the 144001 to pop the receiver between motor and servo with this setup
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Us drone guys prefer to trim rather than tuck wires where possible so I chose to shorten the servo wire...
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...like this to make it tidy
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Much better!
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ESC in on the top deck with double sided tape. Plenty of room for a change even with wires flopping all over the place
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Wires under control here with cable ties etc.
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Another look at the install with stock battery. See there is plenty of room to run the longer 124019 2200mah battery with this setup.
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This is the clear LC racing EMB-1 body to show that you have plenty of room to fit the shell on with the body in it's very lowest mounting position.
Performance
Top speed. The first thing I did with this combo was to check the top speed as this is easily quantifiable and simple to understand. Speed runs weren't done in a big flat area but on the narrow 30m long footpath (pavement) directly outside my house using stock wheels and tyres. After 2 or 3 runs I was getting 59km/hr fairly consistently and reckon I'd crack 60 if I had a little more space. This is about 37mph and compares to 35mph stock which is about the fastest I've seen on a very long run up. Not a lot more top speed but the acceleration and battery life is vastly improved which makes it feel so much faster since most of the time we are accelerating rather than topping out speed. FYI I used the overpriced SKYRC GSM020 for speed tests
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This is the (overpriced) GSM020 bluetooth GPS unit I read for measuring speed.
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Run 1
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Run 2. I reckon I could squeeze another 1km/h out easy enough.
Acceleration. Punch or power off the line on the Surpass Hobby ESCs can be adjusted via a programming card as per my guide here or with the built in programming button on the newgo ESC above. As you can see in the video below this allows the car to have enough power to wheelie when used in combination with my favourite Remo P6973 wheels as I wrote about here. This simply can't be done with the stock setup due to lack of power and excess weight. It is worth noting that you can detect a slight delay in power coming on at full punch with the Surpass ESC when compared to the more expensive Hobbywing 16BL30 ESC as used in my drop in brushless upgrade guide. Not easily noticeable as a one off but you can feel it if you switch from one car to the other.
It's quite hard to hold a phone and drive at the same time without crashing into yourself. In this video I was running the remo p6973 wheels and tyres.
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Battery Life/ Efficiency. This is where this setup REALLY shines. Instead of getting around 5-7 minutes with the stock battery on the stock motor, this little brushless setup easily doubles that number - I actually got around 15+ minutes on the same battery in the same conditions. If you wanted to upgrade to the surprisingly good 124019 2200 mah battery then you could expect to get 20+ minutes of runtime depending of course on how and where you drive. As expected the motor and ESC wasn't especially hot either which suggests energy is converted into moving the car rather than being converted to heat through inefficiency. Bear in mind if you put larger wheels and tyres on and run in tougher conditions with a lead foot (lead finger?) then this will put the gear to the test more but my torture testing over a couple of dozen packs now has shown this to hold up well, thanks to the smaller current draw of the motor.

The unexpected benefits of weight reduction. As mentioned the 2440 motor is a third of the weight of the stock motor and much smaller. When building there is a lot more room to install and balance the weight of the car. Balancing weight front to back and left to right allows the car to be much more predictable through turns and over jumps. The reduction in weight overall of course helps with acceleration (and wheelies) but the big benefit I often overlook is resistance to damage. Since this car carries so much less weight, the inevitable crashes are much less serious in that parts don't get broken anywhere near as much, there simply is not as much force involved in a crash.
Further recommendations
A note on tough offroad bashing. Although this setup runs surprisingly well for on-road bashing and gravel or light offroad, when I really pushed this setup with the bigger P6973 wheels in grass and tough offroad, I did start to notice the limits of this smaller 2440 motor: acceleration is a little more strained and you can start to feel the limits of the motor. If this is your primary use for this car then I would suggest going to the larger and lower kV 2445 3600kv whilst still running on 2s for more torque and efficiency in this range.

What about 3s? Although all of the ESCs above state they can manage 3s, I would avoid unless you plan on getting the Hobbywing which does blow out the budget. All my testing has been done on 2s and although I may try 3s down the track it would be for novelty only as 2s is plenty fast for bashing with this setup. I will be writing an article soon on switching between cell counts in RC cars but as a teaser: avoid it. Your gearing, cell count and motor KV should all be targeted to a chosen cell count. Going up will take it out of its effciency and reliability band very quickly.

Don't forget this upgrade was made to a budget. If you want to spend a little more, do consider my drop in brushless upgrade guide which is built around the excellent Hobbywing 16BL30 ESC. For my part though, I'd say this budget setup does a big chunk of what the original "drop in" upgrade does in terms of performance but with even better battery life again.
Total list of parts used in this guide to get the same build as me:
  • ​Racerstar 2440 4600kv
  • Surpass Hobby KK 35a ESC
  • ​Surpass Hobby 17g Plastic Digital Servo
  • ​Flysky FS-GT2E Transmitter and Receiver.
  • ​15t 0.7m pinion gear
  • ​M2.5 countersunk screws - choose 8mm
  • ​Motor mount (optional)
  • T-Plug Connector. ​
Coming up next I'll be taking this car and turning it into the toughest basher I can make at the request of the guys on the QuadifyRC facebook group. Here's a sneak peak!
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​Hopefully you have found this article useful, I'm focusing on making my guides and testing more technical and exhaustive so the choice is made easier for you. If you purchase via the links here or on any of my pages I receive a small commission at no cost to you which is enough to help my cover my hosting fees and other expenses related to quadifyrc.com - thanks!
21 Comments
Jason
15/4/2021 05:32:02 pm

Great guide, much appreciated!

When you say "does 80-90% of what the drop in setup does and offer much better battery life" at the end... Do you mean better battery life than the drop-in set up or stock?

Cheers!

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QuadifyRC
15/4/2021 09:59:22 pm

Hi Jason, thanks! I should probably word that a little more clearly. Battery life is better than the drop in brushless upgrade doe to smaller motor size and lower kV. It is WAY better than the battery life on the stock motor which is really inefficient

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Benjamin
23/11/2021 04:38:11 am

Can you create thesame upgrade tutorial and install and parts and cost for the Wltoys 124017 just like this upgrade review.

I would like to increase the speed to 90+ kmh or faster if possible

Jose Manuel
17/4/2021 09:07:02 am

Hi, this is a great website! Congrats!

I love reading you but could you said me which one in a 144001 with Hobbywing WP16BL30 ESC is the best for you?
- 2445 5400kv in 2s
- 2445 3600kv in 3s
- 2440 4600kv in 2s

Only one, please!! Only one!! Hehehe!
By the way, i´m sorry for my English.

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RCFREAK
20/4/2021 01:09:23 am

If like to know this also.

If I were aiming to make my 124018 more off road based, in opposition to my recently finished 144001 with the drop in 2445 5400kv (mostly for on road use). Which of these options would be best suited.

At the moment in thinking 2445 3900kv with the possibility of running 3s perhaps? Is that feasible?

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QuadifyRC
20/4/2021 09:25:20 am

As above i'd go 2445 3600, especially with the longer 124018

QuadifyRC
20/4/2021 09:24:25 am

It really depends on what you are wanting to achieve but for 16BL30 ESC is a great start. Of those motors I'd choose the 3600kv 2445 as the best all rounder and a genuine option for 2 or 3s whereas the others are really limited to 2s

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RCFREAK
21/4/2021 03:10:57 am

Perfect answer thanks quadify, for my 124018 I will go with 2445 3600kv.

This is great for me as it opens up the option of using 3s batteries for the first time. Exciting.

David F
1/6/2021 10:48:47 am

Ey man, nice website

For the 2445 3600 specs says that is 37a required
You suggest the 35a ESC this is not a problem because it pass the limit?
I now that there is a surpass genuine pack coming with 2445 + esc 35a

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QuadifyRC
1/6/2021 11:09:52 am

Hi David

The 2445 would be fine on this ESC as long as you stick with 3600kv. I wouldn't trust it with 5400kv

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Jamil link
23/8/2021 06:08:02 am

awesome guide! one question, how do you remove the original paint on the bodyshell like the title photo? thanks in advance!

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QuadifyRC
26/8/2021 09:36:36 am

Haha you don't - it is actually the LC racing EMB body. A perfect fit if you have a smaller motor like this. It's hard to find in that shape but the much better 2021 shape has just been released (also a direct fit) https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A7m0ta

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Perrin
26/8/2021 02:18:34 am

Hello,

So i also got this setup, having the Hobywing esc. However, the motor and esc become quite hot. You cant touch them for 3 seconds. It doesnt reach thermal cut off. but is this normal?

How come its that hot?

And how can i fix this? I already set the timing back to 3.75 degrees. but that should be nessesaruy right?

Thanks for being a great example and the person that got me into the hobby :)

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QuadifyRC
26/8/2021 09:38:05 am

Hey Perrin. No problem man. Which motor are you using? I've you have backed off the timing to 3.75 and it is still too hot for your liking I'd recommend dropping down the kv, assuming you are using 2s

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Perrin
26/8/2021 07:52:06 pm

Thanks for your reply,

Ok, so im using the 4600 2440 motor, like in your article

If the timing doesnt help i will check what is possible in other motors.

QuadifyRC
27/8/2021 01:03:31 pm

Hi Perrin

If you are uncomfortable with the heat of the 2600kv 2440, consider the 2445 3600kv: https://bit.ly/3iur7kx

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Perrin
27/8/2021 07:43:43 pm

I will look into that, thank you for your reply :)

Vignesh
19/11/2021 07:17:42 am

So no need to drill or anything else? Can I use a959 17t pinion?

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QuadifyRC
29/11/2021 04:31:27 pm

No drilling needed. If you want to use the 17t you'll need to slot the motor mount though: https://www.quadifyrc.com/rccarreviews/wl-toys-144001-ultimate-brushless-upgrade-guide

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Alf
16/1/2022 10:47:13 am

Hi! I have recently bought an 144001 and your tutorials is amazing. Have been thinking about going brushless, but i cant decide which motor i want. I am thinking the 2440 4600kv on 15t or the 2838 4500kv on 17t. What option will be the best in your opinion, and why? I really dont mind the extra work with the 2838 option.

Another question; If i choose the hobbywing wp16bl30 esc, do i have to change the connectors? And you say that esc is an overkill for these motors, even though it is only 30amps and all the other ones is 35amps. It also say that this esc is for 1/16 and 1/18 scale. I do not understand why it is overkill, can you explain?

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34south
21/2/2022 12:39:35 am

Take a look at Vallone's RC Hobby to see this set up running 3S. Seems to be fine -- and fast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiXv6vhe1Cc&ab_channel=Vallone%27sRCHobby

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