I love the WL Toys 144001 1/14 scale RC Buggy and have written a lot of articles on tuning and upgrading it here. It is inexpensive and runs well stock or is easily upgraded to brushless power which offers better speed and acceleration as well as battery life. But how does it compare against the car on which is was based, the LC racing EMB series on which the 144001 was (let's face it) copied from? So surely you know by now that the 144001 is a budget copy of the LC racing EMB-1 but with a bigger brushless 550 motor and integrated ESC/receiver and no slipper clutch. This means that WL Toys have been able to grab a big slice of the popular RC car market at a price point of $70-80 for the 144001 vs $200ish for the LC racing equivalent. But this is clearly not a fair comparison so what if you take the brushless upgraded 144001 with a raft of replacement parts, tally up the cost and then compare? Would you still buy the 144001 to upgrade or would you just got straight for the LC racing? I'll break this down by price and performance in order to give you the clearest information to make this decision for yourself and my opinion I what I would (and did) do. A quick word from our sponsor: Banggood have their 11.11 singles day sale coming up with is their biggest of the year. They start from 28 October (today) and then lead up to 11 November with really big specials. It can be confusing but is work the time. I'll simplify it out on my coupons page here with the RC specific stuff with clear details on timing, pricing, codes etc. as they become available.
144001 upgraded with brushless power Although the rolling body is similar on the 144001, you need to swap out the power system (motor and ESC) to start comparing to the LC racing cars. Unfortunately you can't stop there though, you also need radio gear (transmitter and receiver) to replace the integrated set from the factory, a new 3 wire servo and other mounting components. Since my ultimate brushless upgrade was inspired by the LC racing cars and specced similarly, I've used this as a comparison. Costs and parts are broken down below. I've used ranges to give you a feel for price variation of on vs off-promo. Shipping is not included but BG usually has a free or at least cheap option here:
Total comes to $147-$169 depending on when you shop and what coupon codes you have access to. Try "BGAFF10OFF" for 10% off on non-promo items LC Racing EMB-1 This is tricky to quantify so I'll start with the most tangible differences. These are:
There is a chink in the armour though - the battery is a horrid NiMH unit which halves the power of the car. Bin it quick and spend $10 on one of these new CNHL batteries. All up cost here? The EMB-1 can be had for $200-$220 plus $10 for a battery. So why would you choose the 144001? As you can see the 144001 upgraded with brushless costs less to get similar performance but rather than being a $110 difference when compared to stock 144001 the difference is now down to about $50 with the brushless upgrade added in. Yes it should perform similarly but when you get down to detail it will be inferior and the durability as a result will be impacted. If you like to tinker and learn then this is the best option for you I think, I learnt a lot along the way and it's fair to say if something goes wrong I know precisely what it is. Also it gives you a feel for the standard setup and moving to a lighter weight and more powerful brushless gives you the sense of improvement - something you miss out on with the LC racing cars since they are fast out of the box. When I had both the brushless upgraded 144001 and LC racing EMB-1 I actually used the 144001 more because it felt like more of an achievement, and I was worried about scratching the EMB-1! Lastly I should note that you may be able to recuperate some money from the sale of the old ESC, servo, motor and transmitter. And why would you choose one of the LC racing EMB series of cars? $200 would seem a lot for a 1/14 scale car but once you look at it up close and hold it in your hands it doesn't seem like a rip off. Everything screams quality and you won't see a lot of discussion around bent driveshafts, stripped diffs etc. because there are few if any weaknesses here. It is fast and well enough set up out of the box and I must admit after all the work I did on my 144001 that I haven't even cracked the gear cover off. That was a shame - I don't know it as intimately. If you want a car to rip around with quickly and with minimal setup time then this is the one for you. What would I do? I did both! Haha, no, I won't sit on the fence. As you may know I spent a lot of time and effort (that I really enjoyed) on modding the 144001 for brushless and that was my favourite - because it was a labour of love. However after the disappointment of having it stolen I don't have the time or the energy right now to repeat the same which is why the LC racing is nice - I can get straight down to bashing. Once I get things back on track after the break-in (and have set up my security system properly) I'll have another go at a brushless upgrade but this time I think with the newly announced longer wheelbase 124019. More on the EMB-MT which I chose this time The most direct comparison to the 144001 is the LC racing EMB-1 which is the buggy version I did own (which was also stolen). This time I chose to by the EMB-MT which is the monster truck version with bigger wheels and tyres, a monster truck body and sturdier bumpers front and rear. I consciously chose this model because of how much more I enjoyed the larger Remo P6973 wheels on the 144001 as I wrote about in this article. I'm glad I went with the EMB-MT because I find it easier to bash on a wide variety of surfaces including grass where the EMB-1 and 144001 with stock wheels used to get stuck. However it does tend to flip more with the larger wheels so do spend a bit more time doing the walk of shame to flip it back. With it's longer wheelbase and slightly smaller wheels (although bigger than the buggy) the EMB-T Truggy is probably the most practical choice but I just prefer the look of the MT. There are so many good angles as you can see below. Here is the full LC racing range of 1/14 scale brushless RC RTR cars, all are available at the links below.
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20 Comments
Stephen Leach
5/11/2020 05:10:43 pm
Hi Quadify, Thanks again for your great articles. I have a Question RE: tires and diameters for bashing (in my case for a stock WL144001, hopefully upgraded in the future). I liked your review of the REMO 6973 wheels, I may get them in future. How do they compar to the EMB-MT wheels? I like the look of the larger on the EMB-MT but I am wondering where the limit is for 1. the stock electronics and 2. the brushless upgrade ESC.
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QuadifyRC
5/11/2020 10:05:27 pm
Hey Stephen, Cheers. With stock gearing on the 144001 I definitely recommend going no bigger than the P6973 wheels. The EMB-MT wheels are really nice but definitely need a lower gear ratio. Plus they look too big without a truck body IMO.
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Stephen
6/11/2020 12:59:45 pm
Thanks QuadifyRC,
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Apatorh
10/11/2020 11:31:06 pm
I have bougth the repo P6973 in banggood and it is an horror, 1 month and still is in "process", for so long?. I recommend Aliexpress, sorry.
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QuadifyRC
10/11/2020 11:42:20 pm
That's unfortunate, I'd recommend getting in touch with customer service to see what's going on. Give Aliexpress a go by all means although mostly I find them less reliable - all depends on Vendor
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Firat
22/1/2021 04:34:20 am
Hi Quadify, thanks for the great review! I am new in this hobby and found your blog while looking for my first RC and your articles helped me A LOT! I had been looking for Wltoys 144001/124019 then after watching some videos and reading your articles changed my mind and decided to go for LC Racing because the ground clearence of 144001 and 124019 will not be enough for me. But I am still quite confused about choosing between EMB-T and EMB-MT. Based on banggood, they are exactly the same but you wrote that T has a longer wheelbase therefore is more stable. I am not looking for the fastest car out there but instead the one capable of bashing and some off-roading and my biggest question is that is the ground clearence of the truggy model enough? Also considered putting bigger set of tires (like MT's) to truggy for getting a bit more ground clearence, do you think will it fry the ESC? Appreciate your time and interest in advance.
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QuadifyRC
22/1/2021 01:58:03 pm
Hi Firat
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Nathan
21/2/2021 03:08:43 am
This may sound like a silly question but are the tyres from the emb1 the same size as the 1/10 buggy tyres or are they smaller?
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QuadifyRC
23/2/2021 04:46:40 pm
Not a silly question at all - the wheels off the EMB 1 are about the same size as the 144001 (72mm diameter) which is smaller than 1/10 scale wheels. The EMB TG (truggy) actually uses 1/10 scale rear wheels (85mm diameter) so that should give you a feel for size
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Chris
23/2/2021 03:37:51 pm
Hi and thanks for all the time you put into this write ups.
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QuadifyRC
1/4/2021 01:24:44 pm
Sorry Chris, I missed this one (notifications on here are awful). It is close but doesn't quite align.
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Jonathan Raven
31/3/2021 10:29:42 pm
Hi mate, that was an awesome read, I own 2 LC Racing 1/14 scale, the buggy and the Truggy as I like to build the kits but want to complete the set with the my, act and rally in time.
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QuadifyRC
1/4/2021 01:26:43 pm
My pleasure Jonathon. Great cars right? They do kinda fit (you'd need smaller bearings) but the quality and strength is well down on even the stock LC plastic parts. I'd strongly recommend staying stock or if you want metal, use the LC parts - any 144001 part here is a significant downgrade.
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C Dustin
2/5/2021 07:42:15 am
Hello!
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C Dustin
3/5/2021 06:22:35 am
I should have included that I would like to put the Remo tire/wheel set on my EMB-TG. Thoughts?
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QuadifyRC
4/5/2021 12:10:32 am
Hey there. Since the EMB-TG runs an 85mm wheel stock you can probably consider the EMB MT wheels (also 85mm) as another option here https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_ANzEYu
C Dustin
4/5/2021 06:06:23 am
Awesome! I really appreciate the info!
QuadifyRC
4/5/2021 10:30:08 am
No problem. The Remos are more precise but the MT souck up more bumps but a little more "squishy" in terms of handling. The Remos are actually good quality and are my overall preference on these cars.
James
17/5/2021 07:02:29 pm
Thanks so much for your brilliant write ups. Hugely helpful and informative. I’m about to pull the trigger on an EMB-MT. Do you have a battery you’d recommend? Presumably Lipo but I’ve been reading that it requires an unusual plug. Thanks kindly
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Javier Zurita
22/9/2021 05:28:42 am
Hi, friend! I have this same truck, it flips so easy! Do you think the LC RACING stabilizer bar is worth installing? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32347342713.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5e463c00tj3h2i&mp=1
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