HBX 901a ReviewThe HBX 901a is a new 4WD brushless truck from HBX. Being 1/12 scale, it is larger than the cars they typically make. In this review we will cover off the specs and build of the truck, give you all of the performance results and finish up with a summary and recommendations plus some ideas for improvements. If available I'll post a discount coupon on my coupons and discount page HBX have made some great releases in the 1/16 scale recently of which I've reviewed both - the 16886 Spectre desert buggy and the 16889a pro monster truck. Both have performed very well - good speed, battery life and perhaps above all else, outstanding durability. It's great to see then that they have stretched themselves and extended this brushless offering to a 1/12 scale car. This larger scale can open up a bit more heavy offroad locations with the larger size - wheels, ground clearance and presence. Before we jump into the specs, you'll see I'll reference the HBX 16889a pro a lot because a lot of the parts have been lifted from this truck. That's no bad thing as you'll find out below... Close up look at the specs and build Motor. Although the spec says the motor is a 2847 3800kv motor I'd actually call it a 2845... splitting hairs really but worth knowing because there are more 2845 options around than 2847. In my opinion I've always through the 2845 brushless motor was the ideal size for a 1/12 scale car and should perform well especially given this is so light. Like the 16889a pro the kV they have chosen here is fairly conservative so we should expect some excellent battery life and heat management as we are finding is typical with HBX.
Drivetrain. All gears in this car are metal and as is typical of HBX are well made and smooth. The metal 12t M0.6 pinion drives a metal spur onto a central one piece propshaft. This provides power to the front and rear metal diffs by metal crown gear. As we've come to expect, there are ball bearings everywhere here. Power is then provided to driveshafts using some rather chunky diff drive cups. There are regular dog bones in the rear and CVDs in the front, Wheels are held on by proper 4mm stubs front and rear with 12mm hexes. All in all this is an excellent drive train I would go so far as to say is over-engineered. I would not expect to see any trouble from this system at all. Final drive ratio is 12.5:1 which is rather short but appropriate given how large the wheels are.
Servo and steering. The HBX 901a uses a regular 3 wire 17g sized servo. It's not particularly fast as you'll see in the video below but the good news is that if this bothers you, it is easy and cheap to replace with something faster; for example the $10-$15 Surpass 17g metal gear servo should a direct drop in replacement (UPDATE: not a direct fit, more work to be done to confirm). The Servo horn doubles as a servo saver and the rest of mechanism although appearing flimsy is actually pretty accurate and surprisingly robust. As is typical with basher RC cars, there is no adjustment here other than steering trim Suspension. Suspension arms on this car are well suited to bashing - rather than using a lower a-arm and upper tierods, they have gone with a-arms top and bottom on both ends of the car which should make this very tough although you do miss out on camber adjustability. Horses for courses - this is a basher not a racer after all. Suspension arms are very long on this car and this allows for a larger amount of travel. Shocks are oil filled but that are small - in fact the same as those used on the 16889a pro. Mine were well filled out of the factory. However, since the shocks are short and the travel is long, shocks are mounted well in board with a lot of leverage. This means the actual dampening is not fantastic but lets give them a chance and see how they hold up in the performance section. It might be that the light weight of the cars saves the blemish here. Short front and rear shock absorbers but strong upper and lower a-arms make this suspension setup pretty tough ![]() Chassis The chassis is very small and light weight. What I mean by that is that there is no room for anything more than the stock electronics which are extremely compact. This means upgrading to a bigger ESC / battery or anything else could be tricky. With that out of the way I can't see any obvious weakspots like we saw on the WL toys 104009 1/12 scale monster truck - the front steering setup looks intricate but is well braced. Unfortunately the battery compartment allows no room for a larger battery. Hopefully the included 1600mah 2s pack will be enough... Body and lights Body is kind of a stadium truck/truggy design with a rear spoiler. I thought it was pretty ugly at first but it's grown on me. They include a set of decals for you to dress it up if you want. The polycarbonate feels nice and thick and it mounts very cleanly to the car. The light bar on top is actually very bright and looks great. It's a nice touch that they supply a flexible cable here so taking the body on and off is easy. Like the 16889 cars they include bumper mounted LED lights too but you must install these yourself and is very easy. Wheels. The wheels have a 95mm diameter which is very large for a 1/12 truck. They are narrow at only 38mm which allows them to stay lightweight. They are a fairly hard rubber compound and have foam inners. They offer a really impressive ground clearance as you can see in the image below (I measure around 45mm). I'm necessarily not a fan of the look but lets see how they perform. Real World Performance Results In this section I look at how this car performs in all aspects - speed, acceleration, handling, battery life and durability so you can have a balance look at this car to see if it suits you.
Power / Acceleration. It's clear to me that the focus of this car was never the brag like WL toys make around the top speed but more about the acceleration and efficiency. This car accelerates really hard and makes it feel a lot faster than it actually is (I thought it was more like 45 or even 50km/h). This is much more important for a basher than top end because flat out speed is not something you are regularly doing - it's more about accelerating over or through obstables and making changes of direction rather than going as fast as you can in a straight line. This approach appeals to me more and is the exact opposite to the Eachine EAT 14 I recently reviewed that favours speed over acceleration and is probably why I enjoy driving this car more. Cogging. There is precisely zero cogging in this car thanks to the short gearing and well sized motor. This means it is much nicer to drive at low speed and doesn't get stuck in minor obstacles. This contrasts heavily with the Eachine EAT14 which although over 50% faster has pretty bad cogging and low speed control. Handling. First lets talk about the ground clearance. This car has massive diameter wheels for a 1/12 scale car. Between this and the large suspension range it has excellent ground clearance and seldoms gets stuck on any obstacle for a car this size including long grass. Staying with the wheels they are large in diameter but fairly narrow and light meaning the car can spin them pretty easy. Tyres are quite a hard compound and grip ok on most surfaces so long as they don't get wet. Grip on these hard compound tyres is terrible in the wet!! As I mentioned the travel on the suspension is great but due to the way the shock are mounted, dampening is pretty poor. This could be rectified with a heavier oil but it will place more pressure on what is a fairly basic set of shocks. The upside is that this car is incredibly light and so doesn't need an awful lot of dampening. End result? It handles pretty well perhaps a little front heavy if anything. It can get a bit snakey as you can see in the below video but this was with we tyres (and me driving one-handed! Be wary over jumps, with a low level of dampening you may get some bottoming out. A bit like the HBX 16889a pro the handling on this car is good without reaching the heights of say the 124019 which is specced more like a race car. Battery Life. As I've mentioned this car has short gearing which limits the top speed but really helps the acceleration. The other thing it really helps is battery life. Even with this relatively small 1500mah battery and the light weight of the car it means you are getting an easy 15-20 minutes before you hit the low voltage cutout which is mighty impressive compared to the 10 or so minutes from the Eachine EAT14 and the 5-7 minutes compared to a stock 144001 / 124019. This is a relief because there is no real room to mount a larger capacity battery cleanly here. My recommendation would be to buy the car with 2 or 3 batteries as they suit the car well. Battery life is definitely a strong point of this car and was one of the reasons the HBX 16889 and 16889a pro have been so popular. Durability. Like the 16889a pro I reviewed here, this car is very, very durable. There are 3 key reasons for this:
Other little things from having played with the car for a while. It sounds silly but the power switch setup and location is really nice. You don't need to power the car on before putting the lid on. By integrating the switch into the chassis siderunners it can be turned on and off with lid on or off. Minor detail but a nice feature nonetheless. I mentioned earlier but the lights are a really nice little touch as well. The top mounted lights especially are very bright. Summary And My Recommendations So for a quick summary this car is only modestly fast but accelerates strongly, handles ok with big ground clearance, has a long lasting battery and will stand up to a lot of punishment. Clearly this car is not for a speed runner (I'd recommend the Eachine EAT14 there). It's not really for the modder neither (I'd recommend the 124019 here) because of the limited space available and that upgrading the motor / ESC etc will make the car heavier and more prone to damage. Who is it for then? It is perfect for the beginner or for someone who just wants to run a decently quick car offroad without the fuss of having to repair it every 5 minutes and having a battery that lasts for a decent run. Funnily enough this competes most directly with another HBX car, the 16889a pro. This 901a however is bigger with more ground clearance though and so is more capable off-road. So, in conclusion if you are looking for a reliable small scale basher you can take out for a decent run knowing you are unlikely to break it then this is a simply fantastic car. If you don't want to spend quite as much and don't need quite the off road capability then consider the HBX 16889a instead which is a little cheaper and smaller but runs the same key electronics.
Basic upgrades worth considering As I mentioned above I wouldn't recommend bigger motors and ESCs to upgrade this car or it will compromise the durability of the car. With that said here are some tune ups and lower level mods I think would improve this car. If you would like to see a write up of these in the future then let me know in the comments below!
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77 Comments
Moshe nakash
8/10/2021 11:44:09 pm
Nice, I like the features. Sounds great and tempting. I am wondering on the wltoys 104009, what are the weak points of it and is there an article on it already? I am tempted on buying the 104009 to upgrade to a 3650 brushless motor and do backflips all day.
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QuadifyRC
9/10/2021 12:37:12 am
Hey bud have just finished this article and added pics etc now. 104009 drive really nice but the chassis has a really bad weakpoint at the front.
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James
9/10/2021 07:35:31 am
Thanks Quadrify - it's basically a larger 16889a but disappointing there's no extra space for upgrades or even a bigger battery. I've already got the 16889 pro truggy so will pass but appreciate the insight! (Side note: Couple of typos - the motor is a larger 2845 not 2838 as in the 16889 pro).
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QuadifyRC
9/10/2021 08:42:17 am
Ahh yes, there's an interesting story to that typo. And yeah this is a good car but it's either this or the 16889a pro as they are quite similar.
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patrick
12/10/2021 10:12:30 pm
given your discovery about the pinion size, is it safe to assume that you can therefore also increase the pinion size in the 16889a pro and Flyhal 600, accordingly ?
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QuadifyRC
12/10/2021 11:41:04 pm
No, this car has quite a different setup
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patrick
13/10/2021 02:30:05 am
Thanks for responding so quickly.
wong
9/11/2021 08:33:01 am
the motor mount on flyhal fc600 and 16889 can be flipped over to fit a 13t pinion instead of the stock 12t
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QuadifyRC
9/11/2021 10:07:53 am
Interesting, I must take a look
Patrick
2/2/2022 05:49:18 pm
So, I have a Flyhal 610 and would like some more speed from the stock motor. You're telling me if I go to a 13T, all I have to do is flip the motor mount to fit the new pinion?
Tim
14/10/2021 08:44:13 am
Thanks for the review. I would enjoy reading more info about any upgrades if you decide to write another review.
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QuadifyRC
14/10/2021 08:55:31 am
Cheers Tim and thanks for the feedback. The kids have been using this one a lot while I am at work and the rest of the city is locked down and it looks to be holding up to the abuse well. I plan on trying out some heavy diff fluid and some different wheels soon with a 14t pinion so will document as I go.
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Chezza
19/10/2021 01:30:16 am
Another great review, thanks heaps. I've become somewhat of a fan of yours. Your reviews go way deeper into the trucks than I dive. But I appreciate your knowledgeable insight.
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QuadifyRC
19/10/2021 04:57:03 pm
Thanks Chezza. Funny you mention that, I often put these in a backpack and go exploring for spots with my boys. The 16889 fits easier. This still fits but is a bit tighter but I guess it depends on your bag.
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Mike
12/4/2022 10:55:14 pm
Which one has smaller controller for small hands?
Patrick
25/10/2021 07:29:42 pm
As part of its size increase over the “Pro A/fc600” does the 901a have a wider track with longer A arms, Cvds etc ?
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QuadifyRC
27/10/2021 12:28:02 pm
It's a bigger car altogether, longer and wider. A-arms are long and tellingly the drive shafts are much longer. Wheels would fit but would look a bit funny IMO - Diameter too large and not enough offset... it would be super tippy.
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Francisco
4/11/2021 02:43:08 am
Hi,
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Francisco
4/11/2021 03:25:25 am
Sorry, for the successive comments, but can you please let me know the following:
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QuadifyRC
6/11/2021 11:25:51 pm
Sorry, got the tyre number wrong, it is 1822 as reviewed here: https://www.quadifyrc.com/rccarreviews/144001-124019-124018-1822-wheel-upgrade-the-new-offroad-champ-some-compromises
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patrick
7/11/2021 02:40:32 am
Sorry - just to qualify.....quadify...i thought you told me further up the trail that the HBX 16889a pro CANT take a pinion upgrade ? And that the upgrade is only appropriate for the car reviewed here.
Justin
7/11/2021 05:41:35 pm
Hullo, excellent review! I'm trying to decide between the 901A and the 16889a Pro. Main use will be off road bashing. I like the longer wheelbase and better ground clearance of the 901A but parts for the bigger model do not appear to be available! I know many of the parts between the 2 cars are shared, but it seems that many are not. Is this a concern? So 3 questions:-
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QuadifyRC
9/11/2021 12:16:38 am
Thanks Justin. 901a is definitely more capable offroad, 901a used to be sold as a brushed model and so parts are available (search HBX protector). The kids and I use both as they are durable, fast and have great battery life.
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Justin
9/11/2021 08:30:44 pm
Thanks so much! That does clarify things a bit.
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QuadifyRC
10/11/2021 09:22:05 am
No Problem. This is my 2 year old's favourite car and he is not kind to it. No signs of anything breaking yet!
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patrick
24/11/2021 11:59:56 am
My 901a has now arrived as have a surpass servo and 14T pinion.
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QuadifyRC
10/12/2021 12:54:25 pm
I'm late to respond but I've just ordered the 14t pinion so I can give it a go myself. Will look at the diffs and write a guide while I'm there.
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Ash
3/12/2021 08:45:09 pm
Would you recommend this over the 16889a pro?
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QuadifyRC
10/12/2021 12:55:09 pm
Yes it is a better car for bumpier ground but you could argue the 16889a pro is better value
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Ash
5/12/2021 07:28:08 am
Will this battery be suitable for 901a?
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patrick
5/12/2021 07:48:09 am
Sadly not, Ash. I saw your link and immediately rushed to measure the battery tray as a 3000mah would be excellent. Even if you take a stanley knife to the tray that Lipo is a little bit too long.
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Ash
5/12/2021 07:54:51 am
Hi Patrick, that's a shame, I'm new to the hobby not purchased an rc yet, but torn between the 901a and the 16689a pro
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patrick
5/12/2021 08:30:55 am
Dont be disheartened. I think its just a question of finding one that does fit. HRB make quite small packs. Im sure one of theirs will fit the bill. Have a look at their store on Aliexpress.
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Ash
5/12/2021 09:28:52 am
Hi Patrick, could you provide me the dimensions of the 901a stock battery please, I'll cross reference it to what i find on AliExpress, thanks
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Ash
5/12/2021 10:13:10 pm
This battery may do the trick, can you check for size?
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patrick
6/12/2021 08:47:03 pm
Thats a Li-On Ash and wont give as much aceleration or top speed as a proper Li-Po.
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Khoi
11/12/2021 02:08:39 am
Great review! Newb question, why would you need the 2nd set of holes on the motor mount when going to the 14t pinion?
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QuadifyRC
11/12/2021 09:53:25 pm
They move the motor further away allowing more room for a larger pinion
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Ash
29/12/2021 12:42:49 pm
I've had my hbx 901a for a few days, I've noticed the rear left wheel is not rotating as fast as the rest of the wheels, the left wheel also stops alot sooner compared to the other three wheels, is this normal? or can anyone advise what would cause this and the solution, thanks
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Dor
24/1/2022 06:13:04 am
Hi mate,
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patrick
24/1/2022 07:12:20 am
The stock battery is a 1600mah 2S lipo with a Deans (sometimes known as a "T") connector. The battery tray is very small and there isnt a centre brace you can use as an alternative instead..You probably wont find a a 3000mah that fits so just order another stock battery or the 1500mah item mentioned above.
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René
8/2/2022 11:01:31 pm
Hey, hey! Hope you are well.
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Francisco Silva Santos
13/4/2022 12:21:39 am
Hi René,
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David
9/2/2022 04:20:52 am
Ey man, I'm here for a year ago, I had 144001 and 124019 , which one do you think that it's the next step for a cheap car and offroad ???
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Francisco
13/4/2022 12:24:12 am
Hi David,
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KARL
10/2/2022 01:26:44 am
does anyone have a link to a spare battery please, that will ship to the uk
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Francisco
13/4/2022 12:26:14 am
Hi, Here are a few options on Aliexpress:
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Iain Langley
15/2/2022 12:10:11 am
Thanks for another quality and informative write up. It's given me food for thought, as we thought we'd get a couple of 16889a Pros. I like the idea of a 1/12th instead of the 1/16 16889. But I'm not sold on the body of the 901a.
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patrick
15/2/2022 12:14:11 am
There may be other properly different shells that fit but Im running mine with the Bezgar HM124 shell, which personally I prefer, looks-wise. (The car is also sold as a 124 on Amazon).
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Iain Langley
15/2/2022 03:36:01 am
Thabks Patrick.
patrick
13/5/2022 07:54:56 pm
It looks grat with a 903 body. Much better in fact than the 901a body. Ive posted pictures on Quadify's wl toys/lc racing/hbx modders facebook page
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Francisco Santos
15/3/2022 01:05:33 am
Hi,
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konstantinos
20/3/2022 07:53:00 am
I enjoy your reviews more than anyone's else.period.
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QuadifyRC
13/4/2022 09:14:53 am
In short, yes
QuadifyRC
13/4/2022 09:17:49 am
Hmm did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Drive shafts from the 903 should also fit
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Nocs
16/6/2022 06:05:03 pm
Im trying to find some todo. If you manager to find some compatible cvds please, link them here. St Amazon, if you search for 90205 you Will find a complete metal replacement, but its almos 37€.
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nocs
3/7/2022 12:11:16 pm
yes, at aliexpres.search for 901a parts. and there are few shellers with metal upgrades. 4 cvd and done.
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nocs
31/5/2022 03:32:51 am
hi Quadify! your reviews are awesome, like always. Does this 901a have better diffs or better cvds compared to the 124019? with the 2845 3800kv motor mi wltoys is mounting, will i be able to run on those tyres or will it hurt something in the drivetrain? do you know some "reinforced" cvds or stronger ones for the 124019?
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QuadifyRC
29/6/2022 05:13:52 pm
Thanks! Yes, the driveline in generally better than the 124019, largely because of better tolerances.
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Ash
14/6/2022 06:04:13 am
For some reason my hbx901a esc receiver is not initialising correctly. The beeping sequence does not complete and the blue light is flashing faintly. There is no control with the controller. Is there a way I can reset the ESC? Any ideas what would cause this issue? Batteries are fully charged
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Nocs
28/6/2022 12:52:49 am
Dame problem here. No syncing.
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QuadifyRC
29/6/2022 05:15:16 pm
Sorry I'm not familiar with this problem and I'm not near the manual - is there something in there for that? When you say batteries are fully charged, you mean the remote too? These remotes do weird things when battery power is low
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Ash
28/7/2022 03:27:58 am
Everything is fully charged, really disappointed not had the hbx 901a for long. Looks like I require a new ESC :(
Mark Jackson
7/9/2022 09:51:01 pm
Really interested in what you are saying about the 2845 motor. Thinking of putting one in my Flyhal FC610. Would that be an improvement over the stock brushed 540?
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QuadifyRC
9/9/2022 12:22:48 pm
Hi Mark
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Mark
22/9/2022 06:35:25 am
Hi I'm looking at getting one of these but not sure if I should get a 901a for myself and a 16889a Pro for my son. Are they the same just the 901a is slightly bigger?? Were both beginners in the RC world and want a car each that can be fun to drive and also pretty durable. Also, with a decent battery life.
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Mike
22/9/2022 11:00:06 am
I'm a beginner too and have the 16889a pro. If you're driving on grass then the larger 901a would be better for doing that otherwise I would just get two 16889a Pro.
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QuadifyRC
23/9/2022 11:37:59 am
Hi Mark
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Mark
26/9/2022 10:02:49 pm
Cheers for the reply.
QuadifyRC
29/9/2022 11:18:26 am
Hi Mark
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patrick
26/9/2022 10:07:53 pm
The SKYRC range is very popular in the UK and widely available at decent prices. ISDT make great chargers too with a much nicer interface but they are more expensive. I use the D2 Mk2 from their range, having graduated from the starter charger Quadify reccomends - the ISDT 608AC. The D2 mk2 is the dual channel version.
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Maxim
3/10/2022 09:47:33 am
Dear Quadify,
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QuadifyRC
3/10/2022 02:00:42 pm
Hi Maxim
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Oleg
29/10/2022 09:02:18 am
Hello all,
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QuadifyRC
28/11/2022 11:21:00 am
Hi Oleg
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Bo Wei
8/1/2023 10:47:32 am
Hi,
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